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The Dreaded Droop

Aidan
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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby Aidan » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:04 pm

I've also used those upholstery pins to do a "temporary" fix on my X300's droopy headliner. They work well.
One tip is that you can make the job at least look symmetrical by sitting in the centre of the rear bench seat, at least until you feel you can't comfortably reach far enough forward towards the front windscreen. I started to do mine seated in the driver's seat and wondered why it wasn't easy to make it symmetrical :oops: . Sitting in the middle of the car lets you work out a plan of where to put them while having an easy overview of the whole headlining, which is easier when aiming for an even placement of the pins.

Good luck.
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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby naki_k » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:34 am

On sun roof models, it’s much simpler, as it’s only the rear dipped section that needs pinning.
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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby abercanadian » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:02 pm

I forget not all of us have sun-roof models ... maybe that's why mine is still kind of up. :roll:

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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby Chris Barney » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:31 pm

Ive pinned sun roof model and it looks ok
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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby jamesm123 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:56 pm

Mine is the same, sunroof and sagging at the back. I had thought of getting some fabric glue and a syringe and being extremely careful, try that way, or make incisions at each side and try spray fabric glue. The chesterfield couch look with the pins would just annoy me.

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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby NMV 1E » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:22 pm

Forget glue on this one. The "problem" (or so I was reliably informed some time ago now) is the foam (sponge) rubber starts to separate from the headlining shell and the headlining material. Gluing simply reattaches that bit that's already drooped only to make a further drooped section droop.
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You could end up looking like this chap ! I'd suggest pinning one way or another. Really a proper fix is a new headlining ............. ;)
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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby abercanadian » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:22 pm

jamesm123 wrote:Mine is the same, sunroof and sagging at the back. I had thought of getting some fabric glue and a syringe and being extremely careful, try that way, or make incisions at each side and try spray fabric glue. The chesterfield couch look with the pins would just annoy me.

To me, the pins would be far less annoying than random brown glue stains ... but each to their own ...

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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby NMV 1E » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:24 pm

jamesm123 wrote:Mine is the same, sunroof and sagging at the back. I had thought of getting some fabric glue and a syringe and being extremely careful, try that way, or make incisions at each side and try spray fabric glue. The chesterfield couch look with the pins would just annoy me.


I quite like the "chesterfield look" admittedly not "OEM". ;)
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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby abercanadian » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:25 pm

...and yes indeed, foam only lasts so long before it returns to powder - it disintegrates all over the car eventually. Climate control flap seals are notorious as well.

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Re: The Dreaded Droop

Postby jamesm123 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:10 pm

That’s a very good point about the foam disintegration, and also why I chipped in here before attempting anything like that. I’m an XJ40 newbie, only got it a few weeks ago. I do have experience for getting my old XJS the new headlining, only for my brother to promptly put a fag burn into the ceiling when I let him borrow it ha.
My acquisition was on the cheaper end of the scale and it’s going to have a full service and survey before I decide to chuck money at it. Am extremely pleased so far though I have to say!